The Internet Battle and who controls Wikipedia

I lose this campaign, or engagement but it was a small hostel attack on people not use to being attacked, in all their riches and glory.  Now you shall feel threatened.

On Wikipedia I post this (Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 12:20 PM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protandim#Protandim_Side_Effects

Milk Thistle – The University of Maryland Medical Center study confirmed that milk thistle may react with a variety of medications, including, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, blood-thinning drugs, anti-cancer agents, and cholesterol-lowering drugs. If you take any of these medications, checking with your doctor before taking Milk Thistle.”[9]

Bacopa – Utilized as a treatment for epilepsy and seizures. Seizure medication is often used to treat common psychological conditions. Other anti-seizure drugs used or investigated to treat mental conditions include gabapentin (Neurontin), zonisamide (Zonegran) and topiramate (Topamax). [10]

The Reaction between Milk Thistle and Bacopa, could produce negative psychological effects such as depression. It is recommended that if major changes occur in your life, work or relationships, stop taking this mixture and consult with your doctor.

Just10 minutes later the information the links to Bacapo on the wikipedia site for possible Protandim Side Effects are removed.

I get this email sent to me………………………………….
The Wikipedia page “User talk:DRPLUM” has been created on 12 May 2012
by Cresix, with the edit summary: Welcome to Wikipedia! ([[WP:TW|TW]])

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To contact the editor, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cresix

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My email address than gets bombed with three email modifications.  I added this topic to my "watchlist" all edits performed by this Cresix user.

The current Wikipedia page (May 13 2012 16:09) reads this. Notice how Lifevantage department of public relations ends the run on paragraph and sentence with the word “minimal”. Everything is just minimal. First and last being the most impotent thing you say in a paragraph, they have minimized things, haven’t they.

According to the manufacturer, the side effects of Protandim may include allergic responses, gastrointestinal disturbances (stomach ache, diarrhea, vomiting), headache, and rash of the hands and feet.[8]

Milk Thistle – The University of Maryland Medical Center suggests milk thistle may react with a variety of medications, including, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, blood-thinning drugs, anti-cancer agents, and cholesterol-lowering drugs. If you take any of these medications, checking with your doctor before taking Milk Thistle.”[9] A 2007 peer reviewed article suggests milk thistle extracts are known to be safe and well tolerated, and toxic or adverse side effects observed in the reviewed clinical trials seem to be minimal.[10]

Lifevantage public relations department, no doubt posted this sentence and paid for the research now posted on Wikipedia.

“A 2007 peer reviewed article suggests milk thistle extracts are known to be safe and well tolerated, and toxic or adverse side effects observed in the reviewed clinical trials seem to be minimal.[10]”

Here is their link. [10]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17548793

The Link starts with this sentence.

Research and Development at Flora Inc, Bethesda, MD 20817, USA. ctamayo2@comcast.net

Abstract

Milk thistle extracts have been used as traditional herbal remedies for almost 2000 years.

The first sentence in this report, is neither verifiable through archeological evidence nor is scripturally quoted. If Milk thistle was use 2,000 years ago, it would have be applied to the hands as a moister cream, not ingested or used as a seasoning ingredient. LifeVantage calls their product a dietary supplement, but I do not think humans, caveman or neanderthals ever consumed the Milk Thistle flower, it is bitter, dry, prickly and hard to swallow. It would be comparable to eating the spiny skin of a pineapple.

Milk thistle has been use by LifeVantage as a skin care ingredient for the last 20 years. This application makes some cosmetologist sense. But, this does not mean, what you apply to your skin, can also be digested. You don’t put soap in your mouth or ask for a shot of Red Bull, vodka and hand cream.

So, just me against a milti-billion dollar corporation, attached to a massive apocalyptic focused cult church, I consent to losing this battle. Live and fight another day, some infantry would be nice but troops live on their stomach alone. My stomach, I can only fill once a day.

Google search brings up some very strange results under protandim. I did say in my first post that “protandim zombie apocalypse” typed into Google produced, a massive 520,000 results. And, all these results lead back to Lifevantage controlled PR public relations websites, with off topic information. Off topic meaning, not listing any side effects, negative information. To do this, people had to have use “protandim zombie apocalypse” as one of their 5 key words in their posts and their web masters must have  hidden this phrase into the <posts title>, <subject lines>, <meta content> and <brief description>. Hidden means, it will only show up if you “page source” and “right click”, on that option.

Well, now I am blown away, I just typed in “protandim zombie apocalypse” into Goolge, and got this, my website first, and an impressive (About 28,900,000 results (0.33 seconds)). Holy cow, seems like the internet war has heated up, since last I checked over the weekend and the stupid Mormons, with all their money and doomsday gold, just got served.

How do you like that bitches with magical underwear. Your town, my fire.

Wow, they own youtube, protandim has been featured on NBC Today Show, and Dr Oz did this big fat bull shit lie on Antioxidants. Dr Oz even calls an Antioxidant a vitamin on his glutathione special. This is bad.

Dr Oz even calls an Antioxidant a vitamin????????

 

I am sorry but I can’t watch any of this humbo jumpo Antioxidant, free radical stuff, let alone, sit through a Mark Hyman at TEDMED 2010. So he can promote Zombie spice.

I have to go wash my clothes in the river of filth, apparently.

New Edits…………………………

Found on May 26th all the information and research links I added to wikipedia, have been completely removed. The side effects are back to just the brief companies statement referring back to their website.

According to the manufacturer, the side effects of Protandim may include allergic responses, gastrointestinal disturbances (stomach ache, diarrhea, vomiting), headache, and rash of the hands and feet.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protandim

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Going to re-edit,wikipedia May 26th……………….lets see how long it lasts

Milk Thistle – “The University of Maryland Medical Center states that milk thistle may react with a variety of medications, including, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, blood-thinning drugs, anti-cancer agents, cholesterol-lowering drugs.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/milk-thistle-000921.htm

The Bacopa flower (Bacopa monniera) is being tested as an Epilepsy drug to control seizures. See the US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health study posted here.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19944749

Green Tea concentrations can contain toxic levels of sodium fluoride(January 2005 issue of the Journal of American Medicine), which accumulate in its leaves during processing and manufacturing. (Caries Research (1996) 30:88-92 Fluoride content in caffeinated, decaffeinated and herbal teas). Tea leaves appear to be good absorbers of toxins and can extract fluoride from the water above the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set for fluoride in drinking water which is 4 parts per million (ppm).

Fluorides in teas are found together with aluminum. The combination of aluminum and fluorides in tea is of urgent concern, due to the increased damage done by fluorides when in the presence of aluminum, especially “neurological” and renal damage. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_tea )

Recently many fingers are beginning to point to child immunization drugs as the source to the explosion in Autism in the population. Along with Mental retardation, Learning disabilities, Communication disorders, Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, Conduct disorder, and Oppositional defiant disorder. The specialists are questioning the amount of Aluminum in the immunization drugs, as the possible source to the destruction of the normal nerves system and its normal functions. Since aluminum is a common bonding agent to the components in the immunization drugs, it is high on the list of a hazard.

Ingestion of cosmetics products are a leading cause of Neurotoxicity in females. Many of the ingredients in Protandim are cosmetic ingredients.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxicity

A detailed personal account of side effects from Protandim can be found here (http://protandimzombieapocalypse.wordpress.com)

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Logged in to Wikipeadia and had this message, looks like the only realiable source of info comes from the company, The University of Maryland Medical Center, National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health are not reliable sources.

Hello, DrPlum, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your edits to the page Protandim have not conformed to Wikipedia’s verifiability policy, and may be removed if they have not yet been. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed.

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Ok at 1:00 PM Saterday may 26th wikipeadia reads this…..take that fuckers

According to the manufacturer, the side effects of Protandim may include allergic responses, gastrointestinal disturbances (stomach ache, diarrhea, vomiting), headache, and rash of the hands and feet.[8]

Milk Thistle – “The University of Maryland Medical Center states that milk thistle may react with a variety of medications, including, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, blood-thinning drugs, anti-cancer agents, cholesterol-lowering drugs.[9]

The Bacopa flower (Bacopa monniera) is being tested as an Epilepsy drug to control seizures. See the US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health study posted here. [10]

Green Tea concentrations can contain toxic levels of sodium fluoride(January 2005 issue of the Journal of American Medicine), which accumulate in its leaves during processing and manufacturing. (Caries Research (1996) 30:88-92 Fluoride content in caffeinated, decaffeinated and herbal teas). Tea leaves appear to be good absorbers of toxins and can extract fluoride from the water above the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set for fluoride in drinking water which is 4 parts per million (ppm).

Fluorides in teas are found together with aluminum. The combination of aluminum and fluorides in tea is of urgent concern, due to the increased damage done by fluorides when in the presence of aluminum, especially “neurological” and renal damage. [11]

Recently many fingers are beginning to point to child immunization drugs as the source to the explosion in Autism in the population. Along with Mental retardation, Learning disabilities, Communication disorders, Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, Conduct disorder, and Oppositional defiant disorder. The specialists are questioning the amount of Aluminum in the immunization drugs, as the possible source to the destruction of the normal nerves system and its normal functions. Since aluminum is a common bonding agent to the components in the immunization drugs, it is high on the list of a hazard.

Ingestion of cosmetics products are a leading cause of Neurotoxicity in females. Many of the ingredients in Protandim are cosmetic ingredients.

[12]

A detailed personal account of side effects from Protandim can be found here [13]

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It lasted 5 minutes so far, 10 minutes and it is back to

Protandim Side Effects

According to the manufacturer, the side effects of Protandim may include allergic responses, gastrointestinal disturbances (stomach ache, diarrhea, vomiting), headache, and rash of the hands and feet.[8]

____________________________________________________________________

I will do it again but now delete their company stuff, just to be an ass hole

Just join and log into Wikipedia here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protandim

hit “edit” above the protandim side effects line and drop this in, Lifevange hates when you do this. Below copy and paste…………………………….

== Protandim Side Effects ==
Milk Thistle – “The University of Maryland Medical Center states that milk thistle may react with a variety of medications, including, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, blood-thinning drugs, anti-cancer agents, cholesterol-lowering drugs.<ref>http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/milk-thistle-000921.htm</ref&gt;

The Bacopa flower (Bacopa monniera) is being tested as an Epilepsy drug to control seizures. See the US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health study posted here.<ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19944749</ref&gt;

Green Tea concentrations can contain toxic levels of sodium fluoride(January 2005 issue of the Journal of American Medicine), which accumulate in its leaves during processing and manufacturing. (Caries Research (1996) 30:88-92 Fluoride content in caffeinated, decaffeinated and herbal teas). Tea leaves appear to be good absorbers of toxins and can extract fluoride from the water above the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set for fluoride in drinking water which is 4 parts per million (ppm).

Fluorides in teas are found together with aluminum. The combination of aluminum and fluorides in tea is of urgent concern, due to the increased damage done by fluorides when in the presence of aluminum, especially “neurological” and renal damage. <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_tea</ref&gt;

Recently many fingers are beginning to point to child immunization drugs as the source to the explosion in Autism in the population. Along with Mental retardation, Learning disabilities, Communication disorders, Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, Conduct disorder, and Oppositional defiant disorder. The specialists are questioning the amount of Aluminum in the immunization drugs, as the possible source to the destruction of the normal nerves system and its normal functions. Since aluminum is a common bonding agent to the components in the immunization drugs, it is high on the list of a hazard.

Ingestion of cosmetics products are a leading cause of Neurotoxicity in females. Many of the ingredients in Protandim are cosmetic ingredients.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxicity</ref&gt;

A detailed personal account of side effects from Protandim can be found here <ref>http://protandimzombieapocalypse.wordpress.com</ref&gt;

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Got this on my page………………

Edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Protandim. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users’ edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia’s policy on edit warring states:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically “entitled” to three reverts.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article’s talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Cresix (talk) 18:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Plum, you need to back off and discuss this on the article's talk page.    -- Brangifer (talk) 18:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC) __________________________________ I requested an editorial dispute, but I don't know what the fuck I am doing in the Wikipedia code stuff but at least I am doing something. Something better than nothing.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests 
 
 ____________________ They are trying to have my Editor assistance/Requests removed.................... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#Protandim 
I suggest this section be removed since DrPlum has not discussed this matter at all. The article’s talk page is the place to deal with this matter. Instead he has edit warred. He has also failed to comply with the first rule for adding content to this noticeboard. It’s very clearly written above in the editing window: “PLEASE read this before posting here: PLEASE consider discussing the issue on the article’s talk page if not already done so.”
Brangifer (talk) 18:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Cresix wants all links, even the internal in wikipedia removed. Cresix only wants the company information posted. I see no room for any discussion. Editor assistance/Requests is the only resolution that is possible.

DrPlum (talk) 22:26, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Well your choices are to discuss on the talk page or be blocked for edit warring. SpinningSpark 00:19, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I can also request an Editor assistance/Requests, which is why I am here. These are company employees controlling a product information DrPlum (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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3 Comments

  1. aaron woolf

     /  January 25, 2013

    Whoever is posting needed to be known information, please email me aaronwoolf@rocketmail.com, I’m currently a distributer and am worried now that I know this. I have been taking it and NEED TO KNOW IF this is killing me! Like I’m not tryna die bro. Or be a zombie so hmu with the TRUTH and only TRUTH

    Reply
    • Hi Aaron,
      This Blog was created to document the effects I saw first hand. I believe there are two different pills. I believe one is just a caffeinated pill, which is harmless, this you can order on amazon. But, I saw first hand the effects of the toxic pill. The toxic pill is mailed to ladies that are structural members of a community. If you run a women’s clinic, are a midwife, graduate with a degree in Women’s studies then you are a target for Lifevantage, which is essentially run by the Mormon Church. If you are a women that is a feminist, independent and not under the control of a man you get mailed the brain scramblers. If I did not see this first hand, I would not believe this could happen.
      You can tell if you have gotten the toxic version pretty easy.
      Have you ended any close relationships, friendships, or had family confrontations?
      Have you changed your life style?
      Stopped performing hobbies or things that interested you?
      The last time I saw my friend she had kidney and liver pains. In fact, the last thing I did was rub my friends kidney. Your body will try and remove toxins. The toxic version of Protandim is like making your kidney and liver run a marathon, they get tiered and sore. You will become an emotional zombie and usually quit taking it before it shuts down your heart or major organ.
      YES, stop selling the pills. Send the link to this Blog out to your clients. Try and collect some date to see if anyone has experienced major changes in their life. I am sure you will find someone. Send me info on anyone you find that might have received the toxic sustains so I can contact them.
      Billy

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  2. aaron woolf

     /  January 25, 2013

    I will no longer believe that there is nothing behind this. Obviously something is going on. I halted taking the product for now, I need the facts and REAL research before I continue. Nothing that has side effects is safe imo anyway. I thought maybe I found something good finally but hmu cuz needa know asap

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